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Does the role of industry need to be strengthened or expanded across the VET system? Why/why not?
- What does industry engagement mean to you?
- How can industry be encouraged to connect with and use the VET system? What does this look like?
- Are there any roles for industry in the VET system that are not covered or outlined in the case for change?
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Response:
I feel that industry is not engaged close enough with front line workers. We have industry committees in place, however, i very rarely here of them engaging with the front line workers. When I have come across this happening, it has either finished or half way through and i cannot join the discussion. i know many Trainer Assessors in the same position as myself.
Are you aware of the current industry-leadership arrangements led by the Australian Industry and Skills Commission?
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Response:
Yes
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How effective are the current industry engagement arrangements in VET in meeting your needs?
- What works well and what could be improved? How could it be improved?
- How well are you (or your organisation) represented by these arrangements?
- How well do current arrangements allow collaboration across industry sectors on common workforce and skills needs?
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Response:
i have never engaged with, or had the opportunity to engage with these committees.
What can be done to drive greater collaboration across industries to broaden career pathways for VET graduates and maximise the workforce available to employers?
- How can workers be equipped with skills that can be applied across different jobs?
- How can industry support this through the VET system?
- How can we break down silos and improve collaboration across industry groups?
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Response:
We need to remove the different units from training packages that are covered across multiple packages. ie forklift units. there are 4 different units for different sectors that cover basically the same thing. this is the same for many pieces of equipment, and other industries will not always accept the unit leading to a worker having to redo the training to obtain the same ticket but from a different training package. each industry requires it own specialised units, however for equipment such as forklifts, cranes etc. there should only be 1 package that all industries are required to use.
Are qualifications fit-for-purpose in meeting the needs of industry and learners now and into the future? Why/why not?
- Are the different needs of industry and learners effectively considered in designing qualifications in the current system? What works well and why?
- Are there issues or challenges with the way qualifications are currently designed? What are they and what could be done to address these?
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Response:
Government funding has damaged the credibility of students completing qualifications. so many qualifications are written in a way that RTOs can deliver sub-quality training and still have their student achieve competence. a perfect example of this was the Cert III in surface extraction funding. as a Trainer assessor, if i come across a new worker who holds one of these qualifications, this immediately raises an alarm as to the quality of training this worker has received. too much focus from the mining industry is on achieving competence within the shortest possible time-frame, when the focus should be on delivering a quality outcome. i have recently witnessed this with TAESS00015 - Enterprise Trainer and Assessor Skill Set. 10 workers achieved competence in 3 days, at the end of the training the workers couldn't even explain the principles of assessment or Rules of Evidence.
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Are there any further issues in relation to improving industry engagement in the VET sector that you would like to provide feedback on?
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Response:
The biggest issue i have with training is Australia is that ASQA does not perform infield audits on RTOs delivering training. this is only conducted for HRWLs. there are many dodgy RTOs that delivery rubbish training and are still able to maintain their registration as ASQA only performs desktop audits. As a Trainer Assessor for 10 years in Queensland mining sector, i have lost count of the amount of students I've met that tell me about their dodgy (tick & flick) training they received to obtain certificates and that the training did not prepare them for work.